Tuesday, May 19, 2009
5/19/2009 07:51:00 AM | 
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JoeSettler
It would appear that (at least publicly) Netanyahu held firm and perhaps even won (as much as that is possible) this round of negotiations with Obama.
Netanyahu didn't state anything he hasn't stated before. He didn't retract anything. He held his ground. (He didn't mention Pollard, which was to be expected).
He made it clear that the Arabs need to fix their end of things before anything can go forward with them - they have to fix their "fundamentals" which is what is holding everything back.
He quite possibly even got Obama to grudgingly not disavow that a military option against Iran is possible sometime in the undefined future.
Netanyahu even appears to have disengaged Obama's linkage of the Palestinian track to Iran, though Obama was still whipping that dead horse of Peace.
Netanyahu more clearly linked any peace progress with Palestinian demilitarization and clear compromises on their part, as well as using the code words for Israel keeping the Jordan Valley and Settlement blocs, perhaps making it clear that he envisions an Autonomy+ plan (which is overall what we can expect more from him).
On the down-side, uber-liberal Obama clearly plans to try to open diplomatic ties with this terrorist regime in Iran.
The final speeches can be read here.
Netanyahu didn't state anything he hasn't stated before. He didn't retract anything. He held his ground. (He didn't mention Pollard, which was to be expected).
He made it clear that the Arabs need to fix their end of things before anything can go forward with them - they have to fix their "fundamentals" which is what is holding everything back.
He quite possibly even got Obama to grudgingly not disavow that a military option against Iran is possible sometime in the undefined future.
Netanyahu even appears to have disengaged Obama's linkage of the Palestinian track to Iran, though Obama was still whipping that dead horse of Peace.
Netanyahu more clearly linked any peace progress with Palestinian demilitarization and clear compromises on their part, as well as using the code words for Israel keeping the Jordan Valley and Settlement blocs, perhaps making it clear that he envisions an Autonomy+ plan (which is overall what we can expect more from him).
"I want to make it clear that we don’t want to govern the Palestinians. We want to live in peace with them. We want them to govern themselves, absent a handful of powers that could endanger the state of Israel. And for this there has to be a clear goal. The goal has to be an end to conflict.Essentially a restatement of the Autonomy+ plan.
There will have to be compromises by Israelis and Palestinians alike. We’re ready to do our share. We hope the Palestinians will do their share, as well. If we resume negotiations, as we plan to do, then I think that the Palestinians will have to recognize Israel as a Jewish state; will have to also enable Israel to have the means to defend itself.
And if those conditions are met, Israel’s security conditions are met, and there’s recognition of Israel’s legitimacy, its permanent legitimacy, then I think we can envision an arrangement where Palestinians and Israelis live side by side in dignity, in security, and in peace."
On the down-side, uber-liberal Obama clearly plans to try to open diplomatic ties with this terrorist regime in Iran.
The final speeches can be read here.
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FROM CAROL HERMAN
He also didn't move ahead with the people who hate his guts, and didn't vote for him. So, that it's only because of GOP errors that he's president. And, he has the majority in congress. But does it hold?
While Obama is reaching for a NOBEL. And, he doesn't see a downside to behaving like Jimmy Carter.
So far, though, all he does is blah, blah, blah. And, America falls behind in Irak. And, Afghanistan. And, Pakistan is no longer as secure as it once was. So? Well, how did Butto get back to Pakistan? And, now that she's dead, how did her husband "win?" He's a crook.
All I see is that Obama is showing his colors. Sure, he's popular among a "certain group." But he hasn't done a thing to avert disaster. Including economic disaster.
All Bibi had to do was stay polite. (And, his wife got dissed. But does it matter?)
I expect on June 4th, at the big speech Obama gives in Cairo, he will put forth a "plan." Whether Israel likes it or not. He will have a map, ready.
Remember Chamberlain? When he went to hitler he thought the signed paper would keep the world out of war. It didn't.
Oh, and by the way, hitler failed.
I do expect that Obama gets a NOBEL. And, he wanted to "share it" with Livni. So, that's the major thrust. Can Obama get Bibi's government to fold its tent?
As to Obama threatening Israel with economic disaster; watch the horizon! China's money is about to take over the dollar. Which could put America's economy down the toilet. Really.
Obama hasn't impressed me yet with one single speech. He's sort'a like the Miss America winnah? Now, you remember her name? Equally, you remember one sentence from Obama's blah, blah, blah?
Do you know why Obama was given a chance? Nobody believed a democratic president would pick up the failed policies of Dubya. But he did. Sad stuff. While a lot of white, middle-class Americans, hold tea parties.
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